Session Start: Sat Jun 08 16:40:29 2002
(NancyL) Did everyone hear the news, that I am on Art Bell this Tues night. (Well, for me it is 1-4 AM on Wednesday morning. Gak!)
(NancyL) IMO, hello!
(Skeleton) How exciting
(NancyL) I was just checking in my SkyMap re times, places, and it confirmed what you posted re late July the very earliest in southern hemisphere.
(Boris) Hello World!
(NancyL) In fact, I used Capetown SA, and found for Jun 15th, nada except a NOON more or less, and then right on top of the Sun, right in the Sun.
(NancyL) Or I should say, the Sun was virtually on top of Orion.
(N) http://www.artbell.com/img/albetlewis.jpg (a photo, a real zeta?)
(NancyL) For Jun 15th in Capetown, at 18:00 it was on the horizon edge, but by 19:00 gone. Not much southern hemisphere viewing by late June, I suspect.
(NancyL) N: there are no photos of real zetas, to my knowledge.
(NancyL) It would have to be a non-living fake too, not human.
(NancyL) They are literally as thin as a post, their arms like broomsticks, I kid you not.
(BrianC) Hello Nancy!
(NancyL) IMO, then I go to Sep 15th, and find Orion is visible at 6:00 AM, and the Sun not yet up, but I'm sure the dawn is flooding the area with light.
(NancyL) Still visible on Sep 15th at noon, but by 18:00 no, so ONLY very early in the AM, even in Sep, even for Capetown.
(NancyL) So I go to Dec 15th and we have midnight viewing, etc., all very good.
(N) Did it rain extremely in your town?
(NancyL) Visible at 6:00 AM too, visible at 21:00 too, so all night viewing.
(BrianC) Nancy, will aliens be deliberate in who they choose to let see one of there UFOs? I've wanted to see one my whole life and have always looked up but have never gotten to see one. :-(
(NancyL) Do I have this right, IMO? How can ANYONE, then, in June in southern hemisphere, or July in northern, see this thing?
(NancyL) I think not until Fall, given the light pollution.
(N) Hehe the Caps Lock thing, as I suspected
(NancyL) BrianC, read the Awakening section, it explains all that. Yes, accepting groups get mass sightings, etc. based on readiness, anxiety.
(Skeleton) brianc- you must give the call
(Sirgrim) G'day Nancy and zetas!
(NancyL) I have no agenda for today, and am looking to collect one. Please, no "how many angels on the head of a pin" type questions, nothing silly.
(BrianC) Is it possible for humans to make a request directly to the Council of Worlds? Any advice on going about it?
(NancyL) Sirgrim, are you an Aussie?
(Sirgrim) I wish
(Sirgrim) I'm a Coloradoeye
(Michaellss) Woohoo mile high
(Abk) Question - what's with exposing the dark underside of the institutions in the US - FBI, oil companies, investment companies, etc. whose agenda is this?
(Skeleton) Nancy do you know if the Adirondack mountains are safe to ride the poleshift?
(NancyL) BrianC, have you thoroughly read the Rules section? No, you must be part of a group, I think, above 3rd Density, and you and I are still in Kindergarden here.
(BrianC) Yes, shoot. hehe
(BrianC) Anyways, I just wanted to order a McZeta burger.. :-)
(Michaellss) Me being musician can they here material written with thought of them in it?
(Wage) Nancy here's a question: the zetas claim to be birthing envoys, yet don't claim to understand god fully. How did they achieve this position without comunication with god, and isn't their interferance with reincarnation and souls going to the afterlife STS?
(Mmt) How does the Communication with the zetas take place?
(NancyL) Abk, good Q and adding that as Q1 on the agenda. BIG exposes' and trouble for Bush Admin just this week.
(BrianC) Nancy could you expand on what the Zeta's perception of God is?
(NancyL) Skelton, Adirondack are NY? Old Mts, yes, like Apalachia, my understanding. No mountain building.
(BrianC) Like is God a good guy or a bad guy and why does he let pain happen?
(Sirgrim) Congrats about finally getting on Art Bell, maybe the constant bombardment of e-mails got someone's attention ;-)
(NancyL) They get the stretch, if anything, due to Atlantic pull.
(Skeleton) Yeah in northern New York
(NancyL) Michaellss, telepathy is very broad - emotions, concepts, visuals, etc.
(Sirgrim) NancyL: hear of the red heifer born in israel this year? http://www.templeinstitute.org/current-events/RedHeifer/index.html
(Boris) BrianC: I don't think they mean the same God as the one you believe in.
(Wage) Question 2: The zetas claim to be STO and that is the purpose for their mission here, but in effect the hybrids will supplant current homo sapians with a modified version of themseleves, this seems to be self serving rather than improving on the lot of man, they seem to be advancing their own agenda, i.e the correction of their past self-genetic engineering (to remove emotion for instance).
(Mmt) Q Proposal: Are the zetas interdimensional in the sense that they can appear in dreams too?
(NancyL) Wage, birthing envoys are a choice, like the Peace Corps work on developing worlds. Few chose this type of work. Council of Worlds, not God oversees.
(BrianC) Nancy, you said shame on Art Bell on your web sight for letting Mark Hazlewood on the show. I heard that Art is upset at Mark Hazlewood now. Is this true?
(NancyL) BrianC, how to expand on "they don't know what God is any more than we do"?
(Skeleton) Wage: well aren't the hybrid bodies the best of both worlds? It is a win-win situation
(NancyL) BrianC, they, the Zetas, don't know.
(NancyL) Sirgrim, yes, the emails, but also I think this in an INDICATION of one of the shoes!
(N) How was first contact arranged?
(NancyL) Wage, the Hybrids are 50% mankind, and if they (or someone) had not engineered in the past, you and I would NOT be on this chat. We'd be eating bugs pulled out of a termnite heap with sticks, like the Chimps do.
(Abk) Nancy, what do you mean an indication of one of the shoes?
(BrianC) Nancy, will the zeta's or the hybrids share their technology and help us learn in our life time?
(NancyL) Mmt, they appear in your dreams because your brain thinks them, only.
(Zetapal) Hey butch :)
(Quake) What is this?
(NancyL) BrianC, I've now let Art off the hook for this, as he's having me on and setting the record straight.
(BrianC) Abk: The shoe is something that's happens in the news that gets the message out..
(NancyL) Check the Hazlewood page, it no longer refers to Bell.
(Wage) Question 3: How do the zetas account for the myriad negative encounter stories, e.g. whitney streiber, it seems that the story is the same over and over again forced abduction and experimentation, and forcing humans to mate with hybrids, etc. Also how do you account for the widely held belief that greys are extra-demensional entities with anything but good intentions towards mankind?
(Skeleton) Here is a question - to what extent does the government monitor activity that it could deem a threat because of the dissemination of knowledge? I mean, do they keep tabs on private citizens that are sounding out whistles about the poleshift?
(Zetapal) Nancy when are you gonna be on ART BELL?
(BrianC) Wow! Awsome Nancy!
(NancyL) Abk, Art Bell is not a shoe, but an indication of something else. I suspect an attitude change re letting the public THINK about Px, letting ZT speak and not be so suppressed, not bringing ZT down with Hazlewood scam associations, etc.
(BrianC) Nancy is on Art Bell this coming Tuesday. June 11th
(NancyL) Why those ZT basher masters came to this decision? I think they have their hands full elsewhere, and gave up!
(Michaellss) I'll be tuned in
(NancyL) Since the public can SEE the planet inbound, this Fall, big time (in scopes, amateurs) then it is a losing battle.
(Zetapal) Bigtime exposure now, y'all get ready
(NancyL) Plus, lots of bashing and doctored images makes the public suspicious.
(BrianC) Maybe they're feeling guilty about their families going through the Pole Shift without any preparation.
(NancyL) Plus, they want to turn a panic'd public to TT and the like, for advise, and get the panic out of their hair, I think.
(Jwd) Question: regarding survival of poleshift. What preparations towards educating those around us should be made at this time?
(Skeleton) Another question I have has to do with advice for humans who have literally nothing, after the poleshift. For a human surviving but with no home or resources, what is the best of advice for him ?
(NancyL) Skelton, Q2 on the agenda.
(Wage) Question 4: according to African shaman legends (oral history passed down) mankind lived in a pristine state prior to alien intervention, at one with nature, and not warlike, which explains the Christian mythology of the garden of eden, so perhaps we're more advanced biologically, but we've lost our comunion with nature and or place in the ecosystem, is this next hybridization an attempt to correct this "fall of man?"
(Sirgrim) Some very interesting news lately, and that global warming bug bitting, I've updated http://www.wagd.com/news.php with most
(NancyL) I noticed someone's post on sci.astro today, went into check on the weeks work, and they said they went to a certain web site, and RIGHT OFF they found their bios being interrogated, firewall challenged, or some such.
(BrianC) Nancy, do any aliens in particular fly triangular space ships? 3 of my neighbors say one fly over roof tops around here and maybe even over my house.
(BrianC) Dark Triangular
(NancyL) Not being clear on what he was describing, but I understood him to mean that someone was trying to SNOOP in his PC!
(NancyL) This guy, I think, was European.
(Sirgrim) BrianC: what I understand the triangles are government built
(User2010) Nancy, do you know anything about Whistlers Needle?
(NancyL) Also, a woman in Canada stated some time ago to me that she and her friend, on the LAN at work at a University, found Px related info deleted from their computers.
(NancyL) All they had done was go out and visit web sites, looking for Px info, etc.
(Zetapal) Zetas have said triangle shaped craft are men, not aliens
(NancyL) Skeleton, the Z's have said your best asset is your knowledge and skill sets, NOT possessions. Transformation section.
(Sirgrim) Wagd.com has had 2 .gov and 12 .mil hits in under 6 months if that matters lol
(Wage) Yah, zetapal but how'd man get that anti-grav technology if they claim that they or the draconians never truely shared alien tech
(NancyL) Wage, African's very wise. I too thought as a child that the only evil was man, conscious evil, NOT animals even predators, etc.
(NancyL) They are just instinct, not desire to dominate or torture.
(BrianC) Nancy what is the real reason Bush is making this new government Agency to bring together the FBI and the CIA and other parts of the government?
(NancyL) Humans dominate and torture!
(NancyL) User2010 what is the Needle?
(Boris) Did Nefilims came 450,000 years ago like Sithcin says in "The 12th Planet" or was it after?
(Quake) ROFL this is like a cult or something?
(Sirgrim) I got my planetxvideo the other day, nicely made
(NancyL) Sirgrim :-) THE BIG THREAT!!!!
(BrianC) Nancy, Why has Bush been so nice to Russia lately? Begining to give them access to free trade?
(User2010) The needle is on Apache land near the grand canyon.
(NancyL) Wage, ZetaPal, what man anti-grav. They don't even understand grav. Do you mean the loaned space ships they tried to drive about?
(Wage) Question 5: what is the zetas opinion on dark spirits, an possession, do they explain this as STS entities, or do they tie it in with a more biblical definition. What is their opinon on the war in heaven, and the fallen angles?
(Dimension-Rider) Nancy, what is the Zetas opinion on the theory that if enough people raise consciousness/grow spiritually, that pole shift will be far less severe or even averted?
(grimbot) I Love My Country! I Fear My Government!
(Zetapal) Wage, zetas have said it is not antigravity but rather a type of lighter-than-airship with quited engines, black ops technology - like the blackbird was 25 years ago - ahead of its time but not anti-gravity anymore than a hotair balloon is anti-gravity
(NancyL) Brian C, Q3 on FBI and CIA, but I think it's realated to Q1 and may be merged.
(Sirgrim) Nancy have you looked at reports of earthquakes from 1970-present?
(Sirgrim) I've got the totals and some other stuff located http://wagd.com/morons.php if you're interested
(BrianC) Nancy, what do the Zeta's think about the nature homosexuality?
(NancyL) Sirgrim, yes, can you tell what part of that video was filmed back at my non-airconditioned house, late in the day? I look frizzed and my makeup all washed off with sweat.
(Zetapal) Read zetatalk Brian
(User2010) Lore says that there is a cave guarded by a rattlesnake that is burnt by lightning and spits fire.there is a white shell that holds a stone.the stone will make the snake split open and reveal a cave
(Sirgrim) Sounds like me yesterday hot boxin my truck
(NancyL) Wage, Possession is STS spirit as walkin. This is in Being Human section.
(N) Is it allowed to spread real zeta photo's?
(Abk) I'd also like to hear the answer to dimension-rider's question about what happens if enough people raise consciousness
(Skeleton) Nancy I know this question is a little offhand but I was wondering the zetas had any comment on the mysterious appearances of a strange primate creature in india, last summer. It made all sorts of headlines and even resulted in the death of one person who jumped off of his balcony in fear. Was this yet another monster on the leash of the STS ?
(NancyL) Sirgrim, real Richter or the USGS wash?
(NancyL) Hugo, it IS the time! Going to start, but first I must spend a minute doing something ...
(Sirgrim) USGS totals
(Sirgrim) Not broke down into Richter
(BrianC) Nancy, about how many hits has the Zetatalk web page gotten since it first started?
(Sirgrim) I pulled 'em off USGS.gov so ... hehe
(Sirgrim) Just funny it started 4100 in the 70s and now is in the 22000
(PottM) Sirgrim: Perhaps methods to detect EQ's has been improved.
(NancyL) I appologize to those non-US folks who think the chat directed at US folks only. These Q's are that, but the answers will be universal, oriented.
(NancyL) Q1: What's with exposing the dark underside of the institutions in the US - FBI, oil companies, investment companies, etc. whose agenda is this?
(Sirgrim) I read a report of a guy in California measuring when a russian nuclear sub exploded way over in the Med. sea
(Sirgrim) Back in the 60s
(NancyL) ZT: The worm has turned in the US, and this trend will continue throughout the world.
(Sirgrim) They're easy to detect
(NancyL) ZT: In the decades and years past, the elite, those who used bully tactics on the underclasses, used wealth to buy a lifestyle living on top of others, and who manipulated others through lies, lived high and well.
(Sirgrim) It went up almost 10,000 in the last year, surely they couldn't have built anything to measure earthquakes better in that time.
(Sirgrim) Can't chaulk this out to Global Warming, so lets just say whoever points it out is on crack, that will work.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have stated, the Transformation is NOW, and the Council of Worlds and all the spirits in attendance during the Earth's Transformation are not waiting for a pole shift to begin their work.
(PottM) Most of the Quakes are minor anyways.
(BrianC) Shhh quite pls.
(NancyL) ZT: When did the Transformation begin? When the Earth was polled for it's vote, just barely ahead of the time of Roswell, THIS set the stage for the Transformation.
(Sirgrim) Well I read all this on the site, so AFKwhile I toke
(NancyL) ZT: When the poll was in, a true vote where every incarnating soul on Earth had equal weight, the Transformation began.
(NancyL) ZT: The sides had already squared off, with the STS forces determined to win Africa and South America for their temporary residence, to reap souls for the STS orientation.
(PottM) I'm sure if there was a vote more people would have realization of it than just you Nancy.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have announced, the battle in South America has already been won, and Africa is falling away from the STS clutches.
(User2010) If you knew would you enjoy time here or make everyone scared?
(WooferBR) Pottm: The vote is in the soul level. Please be quiet and wait.
(NancyL) ZT: So how is this Transformation progress manifesting, throughout the world?
(NancyL) ZT: Democracies are on the increase, over the past 50 years.
(PottM) Woofer: Does that make the realization impossible?
(NancyL) ZT: The Green Movement is on the increase, worldwide, in its influence and membership.
(Boris) Democraties don't exist at all on the Earth!
(NancyL) ZT: And where little noticed in countries with severe media repression, the truth is increasingly out there.
(User2010) Go to Peru
(NancyL) ZT: Where are these countries, that repress? We have stated that Muslim countries are very repressive in this manner, but the US and China and Indonesia are not that different.
(WooferBR) Pottm: In a way, yes.
(NancyL) ZT: Repression is not simply denying information access, it is manipulating the content.
(Mmt) But the zetas also criticize capitalism
(PottM) mmt: No Nancy does.
(NancyL) ZT: In China and in Muslim countries, access to the internet is restricted or denied.
(NancyL) ZT: In Indonesia, civil penalties for slight infractions cause the populace to live in fear.
(NancyL) ZT: In the US, the major media is so controlled that the public is NOT AWARE of issue, or told a slanted version.
(User2010) What do the Zetas think of the fact that humans use other animals as a food source?
(PottM) Nancyl: What about the people that don't listen to the media?
(Nomis) Anyone fom Germany here?
(NancyL) ZT: All these have the effect of restricting truth, as where the citizen is afraid to talk to a neighbor, or is confused by what they are hearing but cannot investigate as no material exists explaining the issues, all is the same.
(NancyL) ZT: What has changed in the year going into the shift?
(NancyL) ZT: The power of the truth, in its simplicity, is on stage these days.
(NancyL) ZT: Enron, in the US, collapsed with a mere e-mail made available to an investor, denied the truth.
(User2010) What do the Zetas think of the fact that humans use other animals as a food source?
(NancyL) ZT: This email was supposed to be deleted, but was SENT instead! A human error assisted by humans assisted by we, the Zetas.
(PottM) User: That seems to be a natural process. Nothing wrong with it at all.
(User2010) LOL, natural for an animal maybe
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, the bloated underbelly of corporate interests worldwide are being sliced open, the spilled guts stinking and displayed for all to see.
(WooferBR) Why don't you wait for the end of message?
(NancyL) ZT: Enron buried debt, but most corporate interests tdo far more than that in their desire for more, more, and the other guy be damned!
(PottM) Essentially we are animals.... Children have become lost in the jungle and begin to live like animals.
(User2010) Claiming that everything is an animal
(NancyL) ZT: They bribe, they lie, the auditors hardly that, politicians in pockets and the media diverted with playgirls and threats.
(NancyL) ZT: The story far more fascinating than any Hollywood could conjur.
(User2010) But we are aware that there are other sources of food without taking the life of others
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, look for MORE exposes in all countries, of corruption, of power mongering, with the result that those who though they had the world by the tail will be on the run, with nowhere to hide.
(Abk) PottM and user 2010, please be quiet during the answer
(Cybervvizz) It is often a common behaviour when someone (in this case ZT) speaks another feels the need to talk also as rebeliom, so please shut up in respect to be polite and not do disrupt the conversation.
(NancyL) ZT: What is beind his? The Transformation, which increasingly is the STO outlook that mankind should be empowered with the truth, allowed to make their own decisions, and not controlled by others inordinately.
(NancyL) ZT: Each human wishing this is giving The Call, and each is being answered as to what they can and might be inclined to DO.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, human desire, and the assistance of spirits in attendance during the Transformation, are at the helm here.
(NancyL) ZT: This is something the elite cannot control, and thus the look of great fear in their eyes these days.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(BrianC) Nancy, in what ways are STO aliens are allowed to assist STO humans when they are working against STS people?
(Boris) NancyL: What about the media repression in Western and Eastern Europe?
(NancyL) BrianC, you get a visit, they listen to your desire, they suggest how they might HELP you, but the actions must be YOURS.
(User2010) Cybervvizz using the phrase "shut up" is not being polite. This is my first time in this room so sorry if I did not follow your rules.
(BrianC) Thx Nancy.
(NancyL) Boris, less than in US, but I note CNN was bashing Bush horrendously this past week, and CNN is worldwide, I think.
(Sirgrim) Beginning on Wednesday, June 5, rumors started circulating in financial markets worldwide that the Bush Administration is about to be devastated by disclosures concerning both its involvement with Enron and foreknowledge of 911. On June 4, the Administration unwillingly gave the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee 2,000 subpoenead documents describing White House and related contacts with Enron.
(Wage) Aren't these disclosures causing more pain than good, as they will lead to a market crash? look at the dow now, down 500 pts or so this week b/c of Tyco, Enron, Anderson consulting
(NancyL) The trend is very real, and palpable, my view.
(Sirgrim) Is that the other shoe?
(Zetapal) Our rules user - perhaps you'd be happier in a vegan group
(Neil) Essentialy Mozart's music is just set of sounds. Look at organizing force, or spirit of materia.
(Cybervvizz) These are not my rules but rules of the Esseen and every educated spiritual people. You don't interupt people when they talk. It's the base of recspect, and your regret is accepted
(RobH) But its a good thing if the markets crash, they are just a gambling ring sucking off the rest of hard working people
(NancyL) Sirgrim, June 5th/6th was when I got the Art Bell invite, and the Z's said Bush et all were going to be busy elsewhere, and needed their "manpower" to fight these other fights.
(Wage) So hard to make STO choice when you can't get a job b/c economy crashes
(Boris) But are all governments in the world aware of Planet X approach?
(NancyL) Wage, truth is never bad. Market is going to crash anyway. Little guy cares not, frankly.
(JennaJ) Hazlewood claims he paved the way for Nancy to be on Art Bell
(Wage) So what do zetas say about Tyco revelations nancy?
(N) Signs on apples, a zeta thing?
(NancyL) Boris, this was answered couple month ago, go back in What's New and find it. Few are aware, some suspicious.
(Hugo) Its crop circle season, guys
(PottM) Crop cirlces are a bunch of crap.
(Sirgrim) Well I'm gonna call into Art hopefully and talk to you both, what a great thing that would be
(PottM) All about the $$$.
(NancyL) JennaJ, :-) Hazelwood is posting that the Hubble viewed PX for his Boston doctor. Read the new link on the Hazlewood page off my home page.
(NancyL) NO POSSIBLE, the utter liar.
(NancyL) Wage, what is a Tyco?
(Wage) Tyco is the newest Enron
(Hugo) Tyco went belly up
(NancyL) Sirgirm YES
(IMO) Nancy is correct. The Hubble can not be pointed that close to the sun.
(Wage) Ask the zetas
(NancyL) Onto Q2, we're dwindling here.
(NancyL) IMO HUG to YOU :-)
(NancyL) Again, we're going to make the answers universal, not just US.
(NancyL) Q2: here is a question - to what extent does the government monitor activity that it could deem a threat because of the dissemination of knowledge? i mean, do they keep tabs on private citizens that are sounding out whistles about the poleshift?
(PottM) NancyL: What happens for some reason if you were completely mistaken?
(NancyL) ZT: Lately the FBI has been in the news in the US by being freed from many restrictions, by the Bush Administration, re domestic spying.
(Abk) Everyone please be quiet during the answer. User2010 that includes you
(PottM) I don't think they care what people say about PS or asteroid impact or anything.
(User2010) So am I not allowed to talk at all?
(NancyL) ZT: This has caused an uproar, but is scarsely unique in the US or elsewhere.
(WooferBR) User2010: Just wait for the ZT answer!
(NancyL) ZT: Look to Arabian, which runs ALL internet access through one portal, so as to restrict access to web sites elsewhere not to their liking.
(PottM) The fact is everything on the Internet is logged.
(NancyL) ZT: Look to China, which thought to lie to the world on Tianaman Square, until they found Fax machines had done them in.
(NancyL) ZT: Look to North Korea, which punishes any citizen, even children, crawling across their borders to seek food, at the point of death from starvation.
(PottM) The world would blow up if everyone knew the truth.
(User2010) FAX MACHINES????? THEY WERE ON CELL PHONES!!!
(PottM) I doubt the average citizen could even have the ability to accept the truth as truth.
(Hugo) Not in 1989 they weren't
(Boris) Please stop bla bla
(User2010) Wrong, Listen to the reports that were there
(NancyL) ZT: Look to the Catholic Church, which tells the sheep to fear the shepherd, their priests, even when the priests are committing the worse crimes against the children in the flock.
(User2010) Thats how the US found out on live TV
(NancyL) ZT: To what extent will those in power resort to maintain their control, as it slips?
(Sirgrim) I think telling 'em there's 4 billion gaping jawed sparkless bodies here would really set 'em off
(NancyL) ZT: It is not so much what they WILL do, as what they have done.
(NancyL) ZT: This may be increasingly revealed, causing the public to think that this is NEW, but it is the old, now exposed, not new.
(Quake) How can I get the zetas to save me from the poleshift?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, spying by the FBI is not new, has been done even without permission, for decades.
(NancyL) ZT: Do you think Congress, in hearings, is being told the TRUTH, or even presented with those in the know?
(Quake) Plz Nancy, Help
(NancyL) ZT: Those reporting to Congress are purposefully kept in the dark, so as not to slip or have a conscience problem.
(Quake) What happens if the 12th planet never passes?
(Hugo) Get a grip on yerself, Quake
(Mmt) When was the beginning of conspiracy? Since loss of paradise?
(Boris) Quake stop asking questions please
(Quake) But I want to be saved.
(NancyL) ZT: Those in control, behind the scenes, do as they wish, in the smoky need-to-know rules that the CIA and NSA and similar agencies in Russia and Europe have.
(NancyL) ZT: In countries where it is no secret, that spying and repression exist, this is hardly new.
(NancyL) ZT: China has jailed political dissent for decades, mistreating these humans in the worst manner, as did Russia in the past, in the Gulag.
(NancyL) ZT: Organs harvested from still live inmates, starved and brutalized for the enjoyment of sadistic guards.
(PottM) The world be messed up.
(NancyL) ZT: Indonesia treatment of East Timor is an example of raw power, exposed to the world only because of brave reporters who risked their lives, repeatedly.
(PottM) Just think of the implications if the advanced technology that the elite possess was released to the public too quickly.
(Quake) It would create world peace
(NancyL) ZT: Kill the populace, with Indonesian military, and lie to the world! This is NOT news, and where meeting with objection, just goes underground.
(PottM) No it would not Quake.
(Quake) We have to release the elite technology. So we can eliminate those pesky zetas once and for all
(PottM) The ability to create more destructive weapons would be there.
(NancyL) ZT: In Africa, the oil interests sent in brutes to spray the natives objecting to pollution practices, birth defects, and the like, with bullets.
(NancyL) ZT: This is DEFENDED by the oil interests in the US, the offenders excused from the world court, as it were.
(Canuck) Someone please ban these disruptors!
(Quake) I'm sorry
(NancyL) ZT: In the US, the worse polluter in the world, the US, is excused from restrictions, while the rest of the world goes to Kyoto.
(NancyL) ZT: Such is the supposed leadership of the free world!
(Skeleton) How true
(User2010) Sadly the truth shows itself.Nancy it appears that you are saying the same thing that many people have claimed throughout the years. While I do believe that something is brewing, instead of worring about survival, you should enjoy yourself while you are here. Nancy I emailed you a question, why you charge so much?You never gave me an answer and yet you claim that Zetas do not like capitlsm, so which is it?
(NancyL) ZT: Spying on citizens HAS gone on, IS going on, to the extent the forces doing this chose to do so.
(NancyL) ZT: In future, as this year plays out, this will diminish, those forces far too busy defending themselves to keep track or even care.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, those bugs, those wire taps, can be disconnected, placed elsewhere to fool those who might check on them, and the truth INCREASINGLY flow, those wanting free communication INCREASINGLY free to talk to others.
(NancyL) ZT: Such is the progress of the Transformation!
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(WooferBR) So, the years will play out... But will the planet X pass next year or not? When it pass, all the truth will be revealed, isn't it?
(HenryK) Nancy, Can't the Zetas ZAP the people that keep interrupting you, as they are obviously STS ?
(Wage) What do the zetas have to say about Eschelon?
(NancyL) Woofer, Px is only part of this truth, the Z's are talking about. They're talking about exposing lies, etc.
(JoeyB) Nancy/ZT: Do you see the elite diminishing their offensive? Eventually giving up on chemtrails perhaps?
(NancyL) Henry, who's been interrupting me? Tell me as I have the power to ban, and will do so.
(infected) HenryK, and you are obviously stupid?
(Mary) Where can we turn for the real truth, CNN, Fox, anywhere?
(Cybervvizz) The only way to disallow interuption during chat by ZT is a script installed by the SYSOPS to kick everyone who is posting at a giving moment. Those scripts exist.
(Motivez) Just +m the channel during the "talk"
(Sirgrim) Mary: I piece what seems to be the truth together from everywhere and put it on wagd.com
(WooferBR) But the Px passage will cause such disrupting in the world structures, that I should thing there are time for "as the years play out..."
(NancyL) JoeyB, per the Z's the Hazlewood spin on dates, delaying this, was to keep folks in their cities to DIE, as Chemtrails is difficult to manage, and they may find the military countering chemtrails, in horror at the real plan, to poison the public!
(Motivez) Then no one can disrupt.
(Cybervvizz) Thanks Motivez, did you see sysopz ?
(JennaJ) Obany is MIA
(Mary) Sirgrim. I will look thank you
(NancyL) JeannJ Obany is just fine! How do you know, perhaps is he listening for once!
(NancyL) OK, onto Q3, related to the other two, and will make this universal too, or try to, not just US interests.
(NancyL) Q3: Nancy what is the real reason Bush is making this new government Agency to bring together the FBI and the CIA and other parts of the government?
(NancyL) ZT: Hunkering down is a response the elite will use to defend themselves, as they lose control.
(NancyL) ZT: Where previously used to walking openly, smug, about on the streets, going onto any stage, with confidence that anyone challenging them would be threatened, they will reveal a different face going into the shift.
(Quake) Nancy: please save me.
(NancyL) ZT: Previously, they could with confidence get someone assassinated, but lately find their assassins breaking a leg, and the very injury they wished on another coming back to haunt THEM.
(NancyL) ZT: Previously, they could count on a corporation firing an offending whistle-blower, no salary, no pension, no work reference to get new employment, and the story spread about to horrify others likely to follow suit.
(PottM) Nancy: You always talk about the FBI and CIA when in reality that is only a fraction of the factions.
(NancyL) ZT: Now, they find a push back, delaying tactics, and questions as to why such action should be necessary against a good employee.
(NancyL) ZT: Needing to explain, and having none but the worst reasons, they slink away and don't push the request.
(NancyL) ZT: Previously, they could with confidence count on the media to muzzle any reporter with an expose' other than against a political enemy of the elite or wealthy.
(NancyL) ZT: Now, the media is suddenly scheduling news, without allowing the powers that be to review the agenda.
(NancyL) ZT: A single link in a story line, that breaks, leads to the public seeing ALL the dirty laundry spilling out onto the sidewalks.
(NancyL) ZT: Such is the horror that the elite are experiencing, increasingly.
(NancyL) ZT: How do they react? With temper tantrums? This has been tried, to no avail, and has become humiliating.
(NancyL) ZT: With threats? These are ignored now, and if attempted to implement, often come back ONTO the implementer, the elite themselves.
(NancyL) ZT: They wish their enemy to be bankrupt, and find themselves exposed to lawsuits galore.
(NancyL) ZT: They wish their enemy to become sick, infected by an assassin with a needle, and find themselves running a fever, with the doctor puzzled as to the cause!
(NancyL) ZT: As we have predicted, they will move increasingly to circle the wagons, going into their enclaves, guarded by the military or millia.
(NancyL) ZT: Wealthy neighborhoods NOW have such guards and restrictions, and this will become the mode, all around.
(NancyL) ZT: No comment. Secret meetings. Agreement not on paper.
(NancyL) ZT: Explained as the need to protect during terrorism, or the need to protect politicians from assassins, as Israel had in recent years.
(NancyL) ZT: Or the need to control a starving public, given to mobbing the weary workers trying to get things back on track.
(NancyL) ZT: Anything but the truth, which the public, freed increasingly to talk among themselves, will spread.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Jerry) Nancy.. it sounds like the STS is having the negative energy of their efforts bounced back at them.
(Abk) Why are the elite surprised? Weren't they told all this would happen?
(NancyL) Abk, no who would tell them this?
(NancyL) Only ZetaTalk has spelled this out, and they don't read ZT.
(Motivez) What is STS
(Hugo) Sounds like the STS version of the barter system!
(Wage) Seems like people are losing their jobs more and lot of assassinations, all the biologists, for instance, and Bush Admin crushed the congressional inquiry into what he knew about 911.
(Cybervvizz) It sound karma strikes back at the moment? Is this a changes rule ?
(NancyL) Motivez, read the Orientation section of ZT. It's ZT 101, basically.
(Redeye) Read the site motivez
(Skeleton) Why wont they read ZetaTalk ?
(WooferBR) Service to Self.
(Motivez) Thanks woof
(NancyL) Wage, the battle is not over, certainly, just the trends are changing.
(Cybervvizz) Is this forced by the Photon Belt?
(NancyL) Cyber, not a changed rule, just a changed population!
(Spanky) Os what you described the work of the new MJ12
(Skeleton) And what is the reason that the administration ignored the evidence leading to 9/11 ?
(Jwd) Is karmic reaction increase a part of the Transformation process?
(NancyL) Was it not last week or week before, 1 billion incarnating souls, 1 billions Star Children (almost all STO) incarnated.
(NancyL) It is the Star Children changing the balance, I think.
(NancyL) And not all from BIRTH, an abandoned body, a soul wanting to commit suicide, allows an STO Star Child to enter, etc.
(PottM) Bah whats the point of incarnating if your going to die in 2003 anyways?
(Spanky) You would think the elite would be watching zetatalk endlessly. To them it would like cracking the ENIGMA code
(NancyL) I think I know of a case within my own family, of that! Complete transformation of the person! Hostility gone, wisdom in its place - amazing!
(Hugo) You never die PottM
(NancyL) Jwd, karma is the technique the Z's and New MJ12 use for assassination attempts, etc. True karma. You think this, want this, plan to DO this, now it's done to YOU.
(NancyL) Boy, does that work!
(Okidok) Good question PottM
(Spanky) Alot like Vorlons vs Shadows on Babylon 5
(NancyL) PottM, ever think of doing something for someone else? Radical thought for you?
(Cybervvizz) Well some suggested it ;-), but that's indeed the solution
(PottM) Spanky: The elite don't care because when 2003 passes without incident Nancy will be up to her tits in Law Suits.
(Abk) Nancy, LOL!
(NancyL) Spanky, they are too arrogant.
(NancyL) Well folks, it's the hour, and I'm pooped.
(Longint) The Zetas have said, in one of the recent chats, that even from the STO souls, not everybody will continue reincarnating here on Earth. Who not and why not?
(Longint) Who will first get to incarnations in the Aftertime, and by what basis the handing out of the bodies will happen?
(WooferBR) Arrogant, but not stupid.
(Cybervvizz) Instant Coffee, euh Instant Karma
(Karen) Thanks Nancy and Zeta's have a great week
(NancyL) IMO, did I get it right, on when Orion will be visible in dark time. I posted at the start of the chat (actually, just before the chat but you were there.)
(Abk) Great session nancy
(Jwd) Regards to all
(BrianC) Nancy will the Zetas or Hybrids teach us anything in our life times? Will I ever get to drive a UFO? Hehe
(NancyL) IMO, I don't see how anyone can see Orion, the smoldering brown dwarf, until FALL, else its in the dawn or such, right?
(NancyL) IMO is silent.
(NancyL) He's afraid I'll quote him.
(Spanky) It needs 10 billion zetas to stop Bush's plan next week?
(BrianC) Who is IMO? Like, what does he do anyways?
(BrianC) Posts on Sci.astro and that's about all I can tell.
(Dimension-Rider) Surely Px would be visible by now if here next May?
(NancyL) Spanky, they just go for the broken link, the weak link, etc, and only ONE Zeta needed for that :-)
(NancyL) Thank you all for attending and inspiring great ZetaTalk!
(NancyL) See you next week if you wish to attend.
Session Close: Sat Jun 08 18:08:24 2002